If you run a paid Discord server or a premium Telegram group, your payment stack is not just plumbing. It controls how fast someone joins after they decide to buy, how reliably renewals happen, and how much time you spend on support instead of content. In almost every comparison, two names come up: Patreon and Suby.
Both serve creators who want dependable recurring revenue. They were built for different environments. Patreon grew up around a public creator page on the web with a built-in feed. Suby was designed as a chat-native engine that lives directly in Discord and Telegram. With Suby, paylinks, trials, reminders, and role gating run inside chat, so the journey from interest to access feels immediate.
This guide gives you a practical, operator-level comparison so you can pick the platform that compounds your growth instead of capping it. Every Suby detail below is taken from the product documentation you'll use during setup, so you can rely on it when you ship.
TL;DR for busy operators
- If you want a public creator page with posts and comments that lives outside chat, Patreon is familiar and works well.
- If your product is the Discord or Telegram community itself, Suby is built for that environment. It runs paylinks, free trials, smart reminders, auto-kicks, and renewals right in chat.
- Suby accepts crypto payments through Wallet Connect and Deposit (from exchanges or existing wallets).
- Supported assets in Suby today: USDC, USDT, ETH, SOL, BNB, TRX on Solana, Base, Ethereum, Arbitrum, Tron and BSC.
- Suby emphasizes instant unlocks, clear plan-to-role mapping, and analytics that show revenue and churn for your chat community.
Why chat-native matters now
Modern paid communities are products. Your chat is the product surface where members ask questions, read analysis, attend live sessions, and connect with each other. When buyers leave chat to visit a separate storefront, they hit extra steps and lose momentum. Suby is designed to keep the journey inside Discord and Telegram:
- Attract: shareable paylinks, free trials, and soon a unified link that lists all plans
- Retain: smart renewal reminders, owner notifications, and auto-kick if not renewed
- Monetize: recurring subscriptions in crypto across Solana, Base, Ethereum, Arbitrum, Tron and BSC with USDC, USDT, ETH, SOL, BNB, TRX
- Scale: discount codes today and referrals on the roadmap
That focus turns your server into a predictable business instead of a DM juggling act.
What Patreon is good at
Patreon is a creator platform with a public page, a membership feed, and checkout that sends payouts to your bank account. You design tiers, publish updates, and grant Discord roles after purchase.
Where Patreon shines
- A public page that looks familiar to fans
- A place to post updates, previews, and messages
- A directory effect that can help discovery for some creators
Tradeoffs for Discord/Telegram operators
- Off-platform checkout and content feed, then a hop back into chat
- Simpler role automation that is fine for basic use, but limited when you want tight plan-to-role mapping and instant auto-kick on lapse
- Crypto-centric payments are not the core model
If your product is a public content feed with comments and your chat is only a bonus, Patreon fits. If your product is the chat community, the extra hops add friction.
What Suby is and why it feels different
Suby is a growth engine that runs inside Telegram and Discord. It helps you acquire, retain, and monetize with the same tool that delivers access.
Core ideas:
- Paylinks, free trials, referrals to increase conversion
- Instant unlocks after payment and auto-kick if not renewed for clean access
- Smart reminders and owner notifications for renewals
- Recurring subscriptions with daily to yearly options
- Two payment methods:
- Wallet Connect – works with 100+ wallets
- Deposit – members pay from an exchange or an existing wallet by sending to the address Suby shows
- Supported assets: USDC, USDT, ETH, SOL, BNB, TRX
- Supported networks: Solana, Base, Ethereum, Arbitrum, BSC, Tron
- Analytics dashboard with revenue, churn, and CSV export
Suby's design is practical: buyers choose a plan, pay, and the bot assigns the Discord role or Telegram access right away. If a renewal fails after the grace window you choose, access is removed automatically, which keeps the experience fair for paying members.
Real workflows that decide outcomes
1) Trading and research groups on Discord
Moment of truth: someone reads a short preview in a public channel, wants in right now, and does not want to open another tab.
- With Patreon: the buyer leaves Discord, lands on a public page, picks a tier, pays, and waits for the role grant.
- With Suby: you pin a #subscription message. The user taps it, picks a plan, chooses Wallet Connect or Deposit, pays USDC, USDT, ETH, SOL, TRX or BNB on Solana, Base, Ethereum, Arbitrum, Tron or BSC, and the role is applied instantly. Renewals are handled with in-chat reminders and grace windows.
Result: fewer hops and faster unlocks. Your server feels professional and immediate.
2) Cohort coaching and office hours
You need clear rules and consistent reminders. Suby lets you map each plan to a Discord role, enforce removal if a member does not renew, and post renewal reminders in a channel your members already read. You can run daily to yearly cycles, then export CSV to track progress or invoices.
3) Telegram signals with a private archive on Discord
Suby supports both platforms. Set up a Telegram portal for subscriptions and a Discord archive with the same plan. Smart reminders work in both environments, and your analytics reflect the combined business rather than splitting metrics across tools.
What Suby actually supports today
Supported assets
- USDC
- USDT
- ETH
- SOL
- BNB
- TRX
Supported networks
- Solana
- Base
- Ethereum
- Arbitrum
- BSC
- Tron
Base is an important network for Suby usage today, so many communities start there for speed and cost, then add Solana or the EVM network their audience already uses.
Payment methods
- Wallet Connect – connect and pay with over 100 wallets
- Deposit – send to the address Suby shows from an exchange account or any existing wallet
Together these options cover both crypto-native users and newcomers who keep funds on exchanges.
Recurrence options
From daily to yearly. At plan creation you choose the cycle that fits your product: daily, weekly, monthly, quarterly, biannual, or yearly.
How setup works in Discord
Suby's Discord flow takes minutes. You will perform these exact steps:
- Link to Discord Connect your accounts and grant the Suby bot permission to manage roles and send reminders.
- Set up your paid role Create a role like @Pro in Discord. Then run /setuprole and link the Plan ID Suby gave you to that role. Important: place the Suby bot role above the paid role in your server's role list so it can assign roles.
- Create a reminder channel Create a public #reminders channel. Run /setupreminders and choose that channel. Tip: allow posting only for the Suby bot to keep the channel clean.
- Create a subscription channel Create a public #subscription channel. Run /setupsubscriptions. Suby will post a Subscribe button with your live plans.
- Essential commands
- /start to see your plans and the setup steps
- /config to list plan names, Plan IDs, prices, recurrence, and roles
- /notifnewsub, /notifrenew, /notifcancel for notifications
- /freetrial to grant a role for a set number of days
That is the whole loop. From there your members click a plan, choose Wallet Connect or Deposit, pay, and the role applies instantly.
How setup works in Telegram
Telegram uses a shareable portal that converts viewers to paid members fast.
- Link to Telegram Connect Suby to your Telegram account and allow the bot to manage access and send reminders.
- Link your private group Run the flow from onboarding. Add the bot as admin and grant the listed permissions.
- Run /setup Select your private group. The bot connects your plan to the group.
- Create your portal channel This is the link you share. Prospects tap Subscribe, complete payment, then Suby sends the access link automatically.
You can repeat the plan setup to add more tiers. The portal updates by itself, so there is no manual rework.
What the checkout feels like to a buyer
- Tap the Subscribe button in Discord or the portal link in Telegram
- Enter an email and confirm with a short code to create a Suby account
- Choose Wallet Connect or Deposit
- Pick a network and asset from the supported list
- Complete payment
- Suby confirms and unlocks access immediately
Because the flow lives in chat, you avoid back-and-forth DMs and manual role changes. If a renewal fails, your grace window keeps things fair, then access is removed until payment is completed.
Operating tips that map to Suby features
- Use free trials to let content close the sale. Grant read access and encourage a first action with a pinned checklist.
- Keep plans simple. Many communities start with a single monthly plan, then add quarterly or annual for members who want longer commitments.
- Pin your paylinks in visible places. On Discord, keep the #subscription and #reminders channels public. On Telegram, share the portal link anywhere your audience sees it.
- Automate your reminders. The Suby bot posts renewal nudges where members actually read them.
- Use discount codes for loyalty and seasonal campaigns.
- Export CSV each month for a quick review of revenue and churn.
Everything above is in the product and documented in the same steps you will follow during setup.
How to Migrate simply from Patreon to Suby
You can keep Patreon for public announcements and move gated access and renewals to Suby in a few hours.
- Map your tiers to roles in Discord and groups in Telegram
- Create plans in Suby with the same or updated pricing and recurrence
- Pick networks and assets your audience already uses: many start on Base or Solana with USDC
- Import members by CSV with their identifiers and expiry. Then, contact the Suby team and open a ticket, attaching your CSV file.
- DM each member a Suby paylink that preserves term and price
- Pin the new paylinks and use notifications so members see social proof
- Let old cycles finish, then switch everyone to Suby renewals
End result: instant unlocks, visible reminders, and analytics that reflect the real behavior inside chat.
Use cases that fit Suby best
- Trading and alpha servers that need instant unlocks and strict access control
- Coaching groups with weekly milestones and a need for reliable renewals
- Creator communities that want to accept USDC, USDT, ETH, SOL, BNB on Solana, Base, Ethereum, Arbitrum, or BSC
- Telegram-first groups that want a clear portal link and automated invites
If your audience lives in chat and expects a smooth path from preview to paid, Suby's native approach removes the usual friction points.
A quick pricing and packaging starter
Suby supports daily to yearly recurrence. A common pattern:
- Starter – a single role with core channels, weekly content
- Pro – the Starter role plus daily analysis or office hours
- Annual – two months free relative to monthly
- Trial – a short read-only pass that converts with reminders
Each plan maps to a role. The bot handles reminders and access enforcement. You focus on content and community.
Frequently asked questions
What payment choices do members have?
Members have two main options:
- Card payments (all major networks globally).
- Crypto using two methods: Wallet Connect (works with 100+ wallets) or Deposit from an exchange or an existing wallet.
They then choose a supported network and asset (USDC, USDT, ETH, SOL, BNB on Base, Solana, Ethereum, Arbitrum, BSC) and complete payment.
Which assets and networks are supported today?
Assets: USDC, USDT, ETH, SOL, BNB, TRX
Networks: Base, Solana, Ethereum, Arbitrum, BSC, Tron
How fast is access after payment?
Instant. The role or group access is applied as soon as payment confirms.
What if someone does not renew?
Set a grace period that matches your policy. After that window, Suby removes access automatically. When they pay again, access returns.
Can I run both Discord and Telegram under one plan?
Yes. Create plans in Suby and link them to each surface. Smart reminders work in both, and your analytics cover the full picture.
What analytics do I get?
Revenue, churn, plan and recurrence mix, plus CSV export for deeper review.
Step-by-step: from zero to live on Discord
- Go to suby.fi and click Create a subscription plan
- Fill in: group name and logo, plan name, description, USD or crypto price, recurrence (daily, weekly, monthly, quarterly, biannual, yearly), and support contact
- Choose the blockchain and token you will accept and add your payout wallet address
- Link to Discord and grant the bot the required permissions
- Run /setuprole with your Plan ID to bind the plan to your paid role
- Create a public #reminders channel and run /setupreminders
- Create a public #subscription channel and run /setupsubscriptions
- Optional: turn on /notifnewsub, /notifrenew, and /notifcancel for visible social proof
- Test with a small plan and confirm the instant unlock
Everything you just did is the same process documented in Suby's guide, right down to the command names.
Step-by-step: from zero to live on Telegram
- Create your plan on suby.fi, then link to Telegram
- Add the Suby bot as admin to your private group with the listed permissions
- Type /setup in the bot and select your group
- Create your portal channel and share the link
- Test the full journey: Subscribe, pay, receive the invite, and join
No extra glue is required. The bot handles invites, reminders, and removals.
Which platform should you choose?
Choose Patreon if:
- You want a public creator page and a web feed
- Your community is an add-on to the page experience
- You are comfortable with off-platform checkout and later role grants
Choose Suby if:
- Your Discord or Telegram community is the product.
- You want card and crypto in one flow that matches how your audience already pays, including Wallet Connect and Deposit.
- You need instant unlocks, clean auto-kick after grace windows, and in-chat reminders that keep access tidy.
- You want analytics and controls built for chat-first memberships.
- You serve an international audience and care about lower fees, reliable payouts, and no frozen accounts.
The business case in one paragraph
Paid communities rarely fail because of ideas. They fail because the path from interest to access is slow, renewals are easy to miss, and access gets messy. Suby fixes the foundation inside chat: paylinks and trials to attract, smart reminders and auto-kick to retain, and recurring crypto subscriptions on the networks and assets your members use. If you want a public creator page, Patreon is familiar. If you want a Patreon alternative tuned for Discord and Telegram, Suby is the better fit.
Final word
Pick the stack that matches your audience. If they live in chat, keep the funnel there. Share a paylink, let members pay with Wallet Connect or Deposit, unlock access instantly, and rely on smart reminders to keep renewals on track. Suby turns a Discord or Telegram server into a predictable, growing business with USDC, USDT, ETH, SOL, TRX and BNB on Solana, Base, Ethereum, Arbitrum, Tron and BSC. When the tools match the way your community already behaves, conversion rises, support gets lighter, and you get your time back for content and members.